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> trying to optimize specifically for that difference instead of for the thing-in-itself.

I think of (and accuse works of!) this as the trappings of quality. Some extremely successful high quality art piece will use a technique effectively, and then people will copy the technique but not make it actually work. Like, having an unclear ambiguous ending to a story can be really impactful, but now that's a very trendy thing to do even when it doesn't really work, and I like to point and say that it's get the trappings of profundity without the actual profundity

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Thanks for this really thoughtful essay.

"Another type of sincere, elite bad taste comes from people noticing how peopke experience tasteful art differently than non-tasteful art, and trying to optimize specifically for that difference instead of for the thing-in-itself."

I like this idea, it seems like what you're getting at is a kind of aesthetic cargo cultism. In that sense, the mistake of the bad artist is to copy the contingent rather than the necessary features of great art - as in the examples of inaccessibility, focus on signifier rather than signified, and lack of mass appeal. Or to see necessary features as sufficient - even if all great art is novel art, not all novel art is great.

I think this works on the same principle as the other type of bad criticism you mention. The editors of the magazine have a heuristic: lots of bad poems tend to be about clichéd subjects like the moon; this poem is about the moon, therefore it's bad. If you are editing poetry magazines, this is probably a pretty useful heuristic, though obviously isn't foolproof. Whatever the case, just like inaccessibility etc. were proxies for great art, here 'the moon' is a proxy for bad art.

Once you have this underlying idea I think it might be possible to organise a variety of empirical claims about art criticism, whether historical or sociological. For instance, you could say that a particularly prevalent proxy in modernism was novelty; with clearer eyes we can probably see that lot of what was produced in the early 20th century was lauded at the time not because it was good but because it was new; that was that era's particular pathology. Perhaps transhistorically elite proxies are more likely to be about form or reception, whereas 'common' proxies are more likely to be about subject, because whereas the former require some effort and abstraction the latter are patent and obvious. We could even make empirical claims about proxy analysis itself. Namely, I think the bay area blogsphere is especially inclined to account (often exhuastively account) for aesthetic judgements in terms either of heuristics gone wrong I.e. proxies (people only think this is good because it is inaccessible etc) or simple status signalling. Scott seems to think that those things can't fully account for aesthetic judgement in the case of poetry, though.

But I wonder: if originality, inaccessibility, focus on signifier over signified, and lack of mass appeal are all more or less reliable proxies, what are they proxies for? What is that 'greatness' in great art? Do we have to rest content saying 'you know it when you see it' or 'it's something ineffable' or 'there's no cut and dry formula for it'? Those answers have always really dissatisfied me. I'm not even sure what kind of claim we're making when we say X art is great. Is it just a description of our own mental state (happiness, intense emotion, curiosity, catharsis, or whatever we value in art), with an attendant implication that something in the work itself would be likely to give rise to that state in others? How strong is that implication - are we saying that those who don't see the greatness only do so for dullness of perception or lack of discernment, or does the cop out 'taste is subjective' mean that there's no real basis to prefer one work over another? Apologies if you've already answered this in another essay, but I'd be keen to hear your thoughts.

Sorry for the splurge of words. I've been thinking about this issue quite a bit, if I get the time perhaps I'll do a piece on it. Thanks again for the essay

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