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Conrad Bastable's avatar

> I don’t think everyone involved in the literary-academic complex has quite as much as I do of the character flaw that caused this, certainly other people at least manage to finish things.

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On the contrary, I think almost everyone involved has it even more than you do -- most especially including the people who work AT these places (instead of writing their own words). It's just that ~5% of the people who dally into the complex are so hungry & so lack other options that they push through it all. The actual drop-off rate from "Signing up for a writing workshop because I want to write stuff people read" to "actually finishing and publishing something people read" is near total.

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> But they’re writing stuff that people don’t want to read, and it’s happening because there is no point in the normal workshop/magazine/publishing house process where the thing you are doing is the state-of-the-art best option for directly engaging with the audience. The process both teaches you to get permission & selects for people who want permission

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Amen. A small slice of schooling in general. It's funny, you ask people in a writing workshop who their favorite authors are, and sometimes those authors will have written/spoken about their own personal journey to becoming a successful published author...it almost never includes serious stints in such workshops.

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The workshops aren't a pipeline to building a big audience for your work. But they are a pipeline to a career teaching such workshops, or editing the work of those who do figure out how to build an audience.

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A highly recommend publishing your own poems & fiction, even if short & incomplete!

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Is it true that people don't really care about the lit mags any longer?

I feel like you have your finger on this pulse more than I do. I've been a literary aspirant my whole life, but I've really only done the writing bit. I have barely submitted anywhere over the last 15 years because it's just felt too hopeless (and also I watched as their priorities got all wonky)

Anyway, this essay makes me think of an essay that came out 23 years ago that I re-read every few years. It meant a lot to me when it showed up and it still does. I'm curious what you think about it.

It's called: A Readers' Manifesto — it specifically takes on 4 writers who were darlings at the time: McCarthy, Proulx, Morrison and DeLillo. In my mind it makes some very good points.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/07/a-readers-manifesto/302270/

Oh but that's paywalled. Sucks. Here it is on the Internet Archive, free and clear:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160329112536/https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2001/07/a-readers-manifesto/302270/

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